Talkshow program with Muhammad Ismail from Kajen, a music and painting activist who focuses on the realist genre, moving an object on canvas or paper. Painting has been a hobby for Ismail since childhood then in 2015 bought some painting equipment to channel his hobby and eventually became a profession.
Initially learning through rough sketches then developed on canvas, paper, murals and so on. According to him, classical painting with a realist flow is more fun. For him, painters can change the flow like abstract but must be balanced with building a name first.
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